Just ordered a test for my great-uncle on my LOEWEN side! My grandpa LOEWEN passed away in 2008, so I will probably end up testing as many of his eight living siblings as I can. So this is one down, seven to go. :)
I'm expecting that this one will take a little longer to get the results, similar to the KLASSEN test I ran two months ago, because this one has to ship to Canada and back. So, Maybe we'll have the results by mid-September?
Wednesday, July 22, 2015
Sunday, July 19, 2015
Matching segments!
Here is a map of all the confirmed segments in my dad's DNA. :)
You can see the legend down in the lower right hand corner, but here's the explanation of what you're seeing:
1) The dark aqua bars. These bars are 2 generations back from my father, and show all the places where my dad matches his uncle. They actually share a little more DNA than expected, so that is GREAT news for us!
2) The bright aqua bar on X: This bar is 1 generation back from my father, and shows a place where my dad matches his niece. We know that Dad could only have gotten X from his mother, so the common ancestor between my dad and his niece on that segment is Dad's mother, who is his niece's maternal grandmother.
3) The blue bar on Chromosome 4: This bar is 6 generations back from my father. You'll notice that this bar overlaps with the dark aqua bar below it. This indicates that the two bars represent two different sides of my dad's chromosome. If I was to compare Dad's uncle with the family represented by the blue bar, they should NOT match. The blue bar is assumed to be from Dad's paternal side, and the aqua bar is known to be from his maternal side.
4) The brown bar on Chromosome 12: This bar is 9 generations back from my father. I was really hoping that Dad's uncle would match on that segment too, but he doesn't. However... he could end up matching the two families represented by the brown bar in another place, other than where Dad matches them, so the work is definitely not done yet. :)
You can see the legend down in the lower right hand corner, but here's the explanation of what you're seeing:
1) The dark aqua bars. These bars are 2 generations back from my father, and show all the places where my dad matches his uncle. They actually share a little more DNA than expected, so that is GREAT news for us!
2) The bright aqua bar on X: This bar is 1 generation back from my father, and shows a place where my dad matches his niece. We know that Dad could only have gotten X from his mother, so the common ancestor between my dad and his niece on that segment is Dad's mother, who is his niece's maternal grandmother.
3) The blue bar on Chromosome 4: This bar is 6 generations back from my father. You'll notice that this bar overlaps with the dark aqua bar below it. This indicates that the two bars represent two different sides of my dad's chromosome. If I was to compare Dad's uncle with the family represented by the blue bar, they should NOT match. The blue bar is assumed to be from Dad's paternal side, and the aqua bar is known to be from his maternal side.
4) The brown bar on Chromosome 12: This bar is 9 generations back from my father. I was really hoping that Dad's uncle would match on that segment too, but he doesn't. However... he could end up matching the two families represented by the brown bar in another place, other than where Dad matches them, so the work is definitely not done yet. :)
Saturday, July 18, 2015
A quick update
In case anyone is waiting for an update explaining the segments that my great-uncle, my dad, and I share, I just wanted to post a quick update that the website I need to use for the comparison has been experiencing technical difficulties for the past two days, unbeknownst to them until I e-mailed them about it and brought the issues to their attention! They've handled the issue now, and we're just waiting for the backlog of previously not deleted files to actually delete. I should be able to upload my great-uncle's files on Monday morning, so I should be able to run the comparison between us and him sometime around lunchtime on Monday.
Friday, July 17, 2015
Another test ordered!
My dad's sister just sent a check for her test kit, which I just ordered! Hopefully it will ship early next week. Who knows... we could have those results by the end of August! :)
Some of you maybe wondering why I'm testing my dad's siblings. Well, both of their parents have passed away, and my great-uncle who just tested is the only one left in my grandparents' generation on that side (my dad's). So, in order to be able to figure out what DNA came from my grandpa, and what DNA came from my grandma, I have to test Dad's siblings to see where they match their great-uncle, both independently (do they have Norwegian matches in common with him?) and together (does one have Norwegian matches, and the other four have English matches on the same segment?). From there, I can make conclusions about which parent their DNA came from.
I'm loving this adventure, and I'm so happy my aunt is now along for the ride. She gave me some of the family tree I'm working from, so it will be fun to be able to tell her who contributed to her DNA!
Some of you maybe wondering why I'm testing my dad's siblings. Well, both of their parents have passed away, and my great-uncle who just tested is the only one left in my grandparents' generation on that side (my dad's). So, in order to be able to figure out what DNA came from my grandpa, and what DNA came from my grandma, I have to test Dad's siblings to see where they match their great-uncle, both independently (do they have Norwegian matches in common with him?) and together (does one have Norwegian matches, and the other four have English matches on the same segment?). From there, I can make conclusions about which parent their DNA came from.
I'm loving this adventure, and I'm so happy my aunt is now along for the ride. She gave me some of the family tree I'm working from, so it will be fun to be able to tell her who contributed to her DNA!
Some confirmed Norwegian segments!
Well. I really didn't expect to have such progress so quickly. My great-uncle's results came in yesterday, so I immediately went to work browsing through trees, looking for common ancestors, and I got multiple hits for the same couple.
My great-great-great-great-grandparents were Askjeld Heljesen & Brytteva Andersdatter. Askjeld was born in 1780 at Aarhus farm in Voss, Hordaland, Norway. He died 16 November 1851 at Aarus farm, Evanger, Norway.
Brytteva was born in 1777 at Nedre Skierven farm, Voss, Hordaland, Norway. I am not sure when or where she died.
They had two children: a daughter named Torbjorg Askjeldsdatter born in about 1820, and a son, Anders, born in Evanger, Hordaland, Norway. We are descendants of Torbjorg, and the other family I connected with are descendants of her brother Anders. The other family also tested an uncle, so my great-uncle, and their uncle are third cousins. Their uncle is a third cousin, once removed to my dad, and third cousin, twice removed, to me. The younger generation is third cousins, once removed to my great-uncle, fourth cousins with my dad, and fourth cousins, once removed with me.
The segments I've confirmed come from Askjeld and Brytteva. Unfortunately, neither us, nor the other family have been able to build our trees back beyond this couple. But, it's possible someone else who matches on one or more of the shared segments has, so we might still be able to break down this brick wall.
Because I found this connection on Family Tree DNA, I haven't been able to compare them to my father or myself to see if there are additional segments shared beyond what my great-uncle has. I've asked the other family to upload to GEDmatch so that we can answer that question.
Here is a visual of the places where my great-uncle matches this family. You should be able to click on it to get a better view.
My great-great-great-great-grandparents were Askjeld Heljesen & Brytteva Andersdatter. Askjeld was born in 1780 at Aarhus farm in Voss, Hordaland, Norway. He died 16 November 1851 at Aarus farm, Evanger, Norway.
Brytteva was born in 1777 at Nedre Skierven farm, Voss, Hordaland, Norway. I am not sure when or where she died.
They had two children: a daughter named Torbjorg Askjeldsdatter born in about 1820, and a son, Anders, born in Evanger, Hordaland, Norway. We are descendants of Torbjorg, and the other family I connected with are descendants of her brother Anders. The other family also tested an uncle, so my great-uncle, and their uncle are third cousins. Their uncle is a third cousin, once removed to my dad, and third cousin, twice removed, to me. The younger generation is third cousins, once removed to my great-uncle, fourth cousins with my dad, and fourth cousins, once removed with me.
The segments I've confirmed come from Askjeld and Brytteva. Unfortunately, neither us, nor the other family have been able to build our trees back beyond this couple. But, it's possible someone else who matches on one or more of the shared segments has, so we might still be able to break down this brick wall.
Because I found this connection on Family Tree DNA, I haven't been able to compare them to my father or myself to see if there are additional segments shared beyond what my great-uncle has. I've asked the other family to upload to GEDmatch so that we can answer that question.
Here is a visual of the places where my great-uncle matches this family. You should be able to click on it to get a better view.
Thursday, July 16, 2015
False alarm!
I just checked again this morning, and the results of the first of two PERRY tests are in! :) I'm working on uploading them to GEDmatch now, so we can start comparing those of us who have already tested to this great-uncle! :)
I took a peek at the PERRY test's top matches on FTDNA, and they do appear to be Norwegian (expected). That's exciting! :) I'm looking forward to seeing if they will respond when we reach out to them. Hopefully!
The second PERRY test I'm going to order is a YDNA test. That's more expensive, and I have other autosomal tests I'd like to run first. FTDNA is holding onto the extra samples we sent, so we can go back for that test whenever we want.
I also received word yesterday that one of my FOX aunts is planning to test for me. We're just working out the details of ordering her test now. I'm guessing it will be at least September before we have those results.
I took a peek at the PERRY test's top matches on FTDNA, and they do appear to be Norwegian (expected). That's exciting! :) I'm looking forward to seeing if they will respond when we reach out to them. Hopefully!
The second PERRY test I'm going to order is a YDNA test. That's more expensive, and I have other autosomal tests I'd like to run first. FTDNA is holding onto the extra samples we sent, so we can go back for that test whenever we want.
I also received word yesterday that one of my FOX aunts is planning to test for me. We're just working out the details of ordering her test now. I'm guessing it will be at least September before we have those results.
Wednesday, July 15, 2015
Delayed!
Ugh... Just got the message I did NOT want to see for the PERRY test:
Results for your Family Finder test have been delayed. We have updated your predicted completion date, and action by you is not usually required. Note that predicted dates are an estimate and subject to lab volume and quality control.
I'll keep checking daily because sometimes results do end up coming in on time even after they get delayed. The new expected time frame is July 29-August 12.
The good news is that it doesn't appear to be delayed because it failed. So we should still be okay...
Results for your Family Finder test have been delayed. We have updated your predicted completion date, and action by you is not usually required. Note that predicted dates are an estimate and subject to lab volume and quality control.
I'll keep checking daily because sometimes results do end up coming in on time even after they get delayed. The new expected time frame is July 29-August 12.
The good news is that it doesn't appear to be delayed because it failed. So we should still be okay...
Friday, July 10, 2015
No news is.... good news?
It has been a little bit since my last update, so I figured I should post!
1) Regarding the PERRY test--It's still being processed. Results are expected sometime between now and July 22nd. And yes, I am constantly checking to see if they are in yet, so I will post as soon as they come in. It could still fail, and have to re-test, but for now, I'm assuming that no news is good news.
2) Regarding the LOEWEN test--I'm $0.49 shy of being able to buy it right now. Still hoping for some sort of a coupon code or something to come along so I can save a little bit on the cost of the test. If nothing comes through, this test will be purchased on July 22nd.
3) Regarding further FOX testing--I saw all of my dad's siblings and one of his first cousins over the July 4th weekend, and talked to three siblings and the cousin about what I'm doing. They all sounded somewhat interested in testing. We'll see where that goes.
1) Regarding the PERRY test--It's still being processed. Results are expected sometime between now and July 22nd. And yes, I am constantly checking to see if they are in yet, so I will post as soon as they come in. It could still fail, and have to re-test, but for now, I'm assuming that no news is good news.
2) Regarding the LOEWEN test--I'm $0.49 shy of being able to buy it right now. Still hoping for some sort of a coupon code or something to come along so I can save a little bit on the cost of the test. If nothing comes through, this test will be purchased on July 22nd.
3) Regarding further FOX testing--I saw all of my dad's siblings and one of his first cousins over the July 4th weekend, and talked to three siblings and the cousin about what I'm doing. They all sounded somewhat interested in testing. We'll see where that goes.
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